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- From: brianmcg@interaccess.com (Brian V. McGroarty)
- Newsgroups: alt.computer.consultants,comp.lang.c++,comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.programming
- Subject: Re: Can we do programming without seeing the end user?
- Date: 24 Mar 1996 01:24:56 GMT
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- In article <4ivp84$o0n@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>,
- aax@ix.netcom.com(ANDREW GRYGUS ) wrote:
- >In <BYtKnOggyTxQ071yn@oslonett.no> bollerud@oslonett.no (Svein Olav
- >Mytting) writes:
-
- >>I sort of believe that sales and programming should be strictly
- >>separate tasks. While a salesman should see his customer in person,
- >>a programmer shouldn't do that.
-
- Bleah!!!
-
-
-
- >This attitude is certainly prevalent among programmers, and probably a
- >major reason there is so much worthless trash out there claiming to be
- >business software. Most computer accounting programs, for instance,
- >are so riddled with >>>>>>>ABSOLUTELY STUPID<<<<<<< omissions and
- >deficiencies as to be next to unusable.
-
- >If the programmer, or head programmer of a group, has not lived with
- >the client's job long enought to do it, and do it well - s/he has no
- >business writing any code for that job.
-
- >Unfortunately, this is a very rare exception, as most programmers have
- >no interest outside their field. It shows, guys, it really shows.
-
- I can't begin to tell you how thankful I am that someone else out there
- shares my view! I am at a loss as to how any department without a direct
- line of communication with the parties who are actually requesting a product
- expects to be able to even come close to what the requesting party would have
- been best serviced by.
-
- My take has generally been that it's a management decision not to put the
- client in touch with the "weird boys." If this isn't the case, and you are
- in a programming position where it's actually been *your* decision not to
- communicate with the clients, let me know where you are. Hopefully your
- employer will help me relieve you of your torment for your clients' sake!
-
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